Is Nintendo Digging its Own Grave?

"since Aeris died. "
Way to bring back old wounds :(

Digging its grave what, Nintendo is just doing fine, look at all they offer now Wii, DS, Wiiware, Virtual Console, they make more games than Xbox and Sony combined, they rely on 3rd Party to much. Wii 4 life

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^lol
Since Rare left they haven't had a decent platformer.

I think they're just lazy and know that most wii owner aren't "gamers" and therefor don't have the pressure to release new games every couple years. Or a decent console for that matter.

Hmmm Nintendo are okay...they are still living, but if it does take several years for a new sequel, the main purpose for it would be to make it good as possible -fix the bugs, etc.

But Japan gets basically all Nintendo stuff first, so if you can read Japanese, and maybe speak it, then live in Japan and get all Nintendo stuff around 6 months if not a year before everyone else.

yknow nothing gets the views up on Gameplayer more than controversy . Who needs important information on the latest games when you can sensationalise EVERYTHING !. 

Sorry to say so, Chris Stead, but that's the biggest load of twaddle I've read in some time. And, as I surf the internet quite regularly, that's quite an achievement. Congrats! Let's address this bit by bit:

"If you happen to be a sixty year old grandma who’s dedicated to at least one Wii Fit session a day and loves Nintendo’s little white box more than a box of Cadbury’s favourites then we’re not talking to you."

Why not? That sixty-year-old grandmother is playing her Wii every day, but she's not a gamer? Don't be such a snob.

"That were there when the SNES was carving it up and delivering the greatest games the 2D era had to offer."

Yeah, we get it, to qualify as a "gamer", you have to have been playing the things for twenty years and have completed Ikaruga. Whatever. 

"For those not in the know, Nintendo’s evergreen policy basically states that while consumers are still buying a game, there is no need to make a sequel. They happily paraded games like Nintendogs, Super Mario Bros and Mario Kart Wii about, gloating about how they continue to sell every single day, and substantial amounts too. They went on to suggest that was the way forward for their business model, to create a title and then let it just get picked up by more and more people as they buy into the console."

Can't ... quite ... see the problem here. Though if they were making a Nintendogs game every year, why do I suspect you'd be the first one bleating like a lamb?

"Love Zelda? Don’t expect another one. Did Metroid float your boat? Well that’s run its course for another generation. How about Super Mario Galaxy: blow your mind too? Expect another in five years." 

They're making another Zelda as I type. And another Mario. This was revealed at E3, and at the more recent Media Summit. Facts: get them straight.

"Imagine if Microsoft and Sony played the same strategy. We’d have just got Halo 2. It would be five more years to Resistance or Gears of War sequels would hit. And that is in a market flooded with AAA third-party games. The Wii doesn’t even have that. It has Nintendo’s own products, de Blob, and then everything else a distant third. Painting broad strokes here but you get the gist."

It takes time to make Zelda and Mario games. I'm totally speculating here, but let's say the new Zelda comes out just before Christmas 2009. That's three years between Twilight Princess and the follow-up. There was three years between Halo and Halo 2. I'd rather they took their time and did a proper job. And no good third-party games? No More Heroes? Mega Man 9? Okami? Resident Evil 4? Blast Works? Trauma Center? Guitar Hero? Mercury Meltdown? LostWinds? Zack & Wiki? Boom Blox?

"...nothing has shown us that Nintendo plan on delivering must-play software anytime in the near future for gamers."

Punch-Out? Cave Story? Mario & Luigi RPG 3? Rhythm Heaven? Fire Emblem? Club Nintendo in the U.S.?

"Besides the belated announcement of Pikmin 3 – which will not hit our s

I think you both have a point but calling someone a fanboy on gameplayer is just the natural response to anything you don't agree with round here . 
Yknow what? i never much liked nintendo exclusives , just by chance they usually turned out to be something i wasn't into so i don't own a wii (i do have a DS) . 
And buying a cheap console doesn't make you a tightarse . Not everything thats expensive is typically the greatest -ask anyone who's ever played zelda on the DS . 

To many games that were made for "fun", Zeldaand Mario games are good but Nintendo need to let some more characters have the spotlight like Fox, Pit and even Yoshi. If they give some characters a game of there own and use them well they should be ok. 

the headline specifically pointed out that I was talking to gamers. Obviously if you're a sixty year old grandma or a happy little kid that the Wii is rocking your world. I specifically removed this audience from the article so bringing them up and games designed for them has nothing to do with what I said.

I was at E3, and if Nintendo made a splash with any sort of new Zelda or Mario then it must have been very small. Haven't heard a thinh about it.

What I was trying to allude to in this article is that Nintendo have stopped caring about gamers. It is more of a courtesy than anything else that games journalists are even invited to see their products. Or so it seems some time. (not that is the fault of the great local Nintendo guys who I love, but the orders come down from Japan). And there is no longterm future in marketting a product to a gimmick hungry audience who will, eventually, look for the next high.

So you were pointing out that talked about gamers. Let's put that in a rational form of definition.
A gamer is a person who plays videogames. I think we can all agree on that.
But what is a videogame? 

Well, a video game is a digital product
that runs on a electronic device
which generates a digital playing field
trough a visual device and with which the player can interact with trough an input device
and has the intent of delivering a or several enetertainment values.

For argument sake, since we're all rational beings here, is that any qualitive description of a videogame is a opinion and so can not be used as a definition for a videogame.

This means that someone that played tetris for 5 minutes, is or was a gamer at some point (like you can be a smoker and was a smoker).

Th truth is, which you can't see with your clearly very limited perspective on things, Nintendo loves videogames, they have to, they make all their profit off of them. They just don't like structure they're in, which they built up with the NES, so they decided to destroy it and built a new one, one which they will own and dominate, resulting in higher profits.

Now to do this, they made the Wii as a disruptive product. Now disruptive products are so made that the represent a assymmetrical value-set compared to the established value-set. And this mostly happens to contradict each other. Sony and MS decided to keep making games with more immersion and complexity, Nintendo decided to make games more fun and at the same making games itself less expensive. And that's what this is really all about, it's a battle of values and which one is going to survive (not about which one being better because that debate is impossible to do). Now all you pseudo-hardcore gamers are all riled up because you know, you see, Nintendo's value-set winning out, and you're right. Nintendo is breeding new types gamers, from which a new type hardcore gamer will arise and it will engulf the old one by sheer numbers. It will be over soon though, Sony and Microsoft seem to be intent to follow Nintendo's lead.

And eeuh, long-term future of the Wii-structure versus the old one. The old one is stagnating or shrinking and knows ever increasing costs, the new one knows unprecedented growth similiar to the NES plus cost-control, and we all know how that one turned out.... complete flop...no wait...

Really, just admit you're talking out of your ass and play the tank-game in Wiiplay, it will be easier for you then.